Participant #1:
Welcome to episode 21 of season two, everybody. Today Maria is incredibly sick. So if you are listening to this center, some healing energy, our queen has fallen. And so today I am joined by Olivia and Nike to fill in for her. Thank you both very much for being here. Appreciate it. If you guys want to introduce yourself some of course. Hi, I’m Olivia. You might also know me as the Witch of Wonderland. I’m on YouTube and on Instagram, but if not, just hi. And I’m Nike basically everywhere as we’re rich Nike, but more importantly, I’m Robin and Olivia’s wife. True. Yes, that’s very true. Thank you very much for being here and filling in. We appreciate it. I know Maria does.
Participant #1:
So if you just find us to speak every week, we talk about upcoming lunar phases and essentially how we can utilize that in our practice. And because Nike is here and Nike is an astrologer, I figured because they’re subbing in that they can fill in the lunar phase for us. So would you be honors, please, Mikey? Yes, of course. So we have the upcoming solar eclipse, which is going to be in SAGITTARIUS with the South Node, and it’s going to be very close to Mercury as well. Eclipses generally are times of great endings and great beginnings, and great isn’t the large sense. So with this one, it’s going to be the great beginnings as the last one was great endings. So if you’re looking to initiate big projects, this would be the time to sort of get those plans in order. They also set this home for the next six months. So if it’s for longer term projects, even better. And being that it’s in a mutable fire sign, if you’re looking to change up plans to less of enacting in the cardinal sense, but more of really get the motion going, gathering all the different fun parts, being able to stay a little bit loose with it, that’s going to be the best for it. I don’t usually say to go with the exact time, especially because it’s often quite late, but if you’re looking for the exact time, it’ll happen at 02:43 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. So if you’re along the eastern coast of the United States, that’s that time. And that will be Friday night into Saturday morning. So Friday evening would be the time to really start those preparations. If you want to stay up until nearly 03:00 a.m. For it, maybe some people out there will have the energy to do that, but I know my ass is going to be asleep.
Participant #1:
So because Maria is not here this week, I am taking over for the Tarot card of the week. Hopefully we’ve never done this one before. I tried to check and I feel like it was never done before and I thought it was an appropriate card to go with the eclipse. So this week we are talking about death. Death is a card where we see a Grim Reaper like figure in a suit of armor riding a white horse, carrying a little flag. I guess it’s kind of a flag. And this is a major card of rebirth and sort of what’s the word I’m looking for? Endings and beginnings. It’s a massive charge of critical change. When we see Tarot tarot. When we see the death card come up in Tarot, we are essentially seeing a situation where it’s very similarly aligned to the idea of a phoenix. One chapter closes and then opens up another chapter’s ability to have total rebirth and make itself something entirely new. When we see the death card in the traditional writer Wade Smith imagery, we often see children and adults around the Grim Reaper character. And that representation shows us the fact that death kind of is unavoidable for everyone. And that sort of radical change, that radical rebirth, is something that we’re all susceptible to and able to grow from. When we see this kind of card come up in most readings, it is a really good time, in my opinion, to look at the cards around it and see what exactly in our life we need to focus on for this sort of radical change. In radical rebirth, in incredibly rare situations, it can mean literal death. But when I talk incredibly rare, I’m talking about the fact that in my decade plus of reading terror professionally, I’ve seen that happen once. So by incredibly rare, I mean, like, crazy incredibly rare. So, realistically, when we see this card in reading, look for transformations, look for transitions. Look for situations in your life where you’re going to make lemonade out of lemons and allow yourself the potential to grow and be reborn, as it were. What about you guys? Nike, how do you see this card? I’ve always seen death in contrast to the tower card. You’ve already covered it. Death is natural. It comes for us all. And so with that theme, it’s the natural change that you go through. So in my experience with my own readings, I’ve seen it more of like, this is a transition that’s necessary to happen. And death can be painful, but it’s usually not going to be something that is insurmountable compared to the tower, which is so sudden and extreme, and it’s chaos and there’s the lightning and the fire and they’re falling. So death is much more of an easy way to go through the transitions. And I’ve always felt like it’s just seen as scary because people are so afraid of the word death. But if you think about it, there are things that are living through death. Fungus is absolutely from death kind of situation. Yeah, absolutely. What about you, Olivia? Yeah, I mean, kind of what Nike building off of what they said, the tower is really abrupt, whereas death is still an abrupt change. Or I guess it’s not an abrupt change, it’s still a change. But it’s a decomposing change that takes a lot of time and a lot of different mechanics and gears turning in order for it to happen. I like when the deaf card comes up because that tells me that I’m kind of leveling up. And while that doesn’t mean that it’s going to be fun or I’m going to enjoy it, it means that I’m leveling up. And I think a lot of people, when they see that card, like you said, it upsets them because they see literal death or they just feel like it’s this bad thing, this negative thing, when in reality, death is just change. It’s just cycles. And it’s a lot of also letting go of control because it’s just something that you can’t control. Death is not something that anybody can escape. It’s inevitable. And just allowing in the car the Grim Reaper to kind of just take over and do its job, I think that’s a lesson within itself as well. Yeah, absolutely. I like both of your takes. I never thought about that with the Tower card, too. Nike, that’s a really interesting take. I totally agree with you. Thank you. I’m very smart. Everybody should know it. You’re both very smart. Very smart. Very pretty.
Participant #1:
So because we have new voices this week and because Maria is not here, we decided to talk about something that the three of us have recently been, I don’t want to say dealing with, but we have been discussing recently. And with that we would like to talk this week about kind of the student teacher dynamic within the occult community, what people owe you and general parasocial relationships and what is and what isn’t appropriate within that sphere. So that being said, how would you guys generally define, I guess you could say parasocial relationships kind of to you? Does that make sense? I would define it as the audience or the viewer of said creator having that fake relationship or friendship with that creator, despite the fact that the creator may not know that this person exists or this person is just some Internet stranger to them. And I have those relationships with a lot of my favorite creators. But I think there is that boundary of how far you go with it, of how far you decide to treat this creator like your friend. Because sometimes that’s very inappropriate to do. Yeah. Yeah. Very similarly, I describe it as a one sided assumed familiarity where they’ve consumed your content or whatever it is that you appear in, because it happens to celebrities too, but they’ve consumed the public persona that you’ve put out there and assume that because they’ve seen so much of what they think is the real you and parts of your personality come through, there’s this assumption that they know who you are deep down, and they’ve seen enough of you to know what kind of relationship you would assumedly have in real life, and then they act with that familiarity that you do not have with them in return. Yes. And I think too, just to kind of add a little bit to what you both said, because I really think what both of you said really nailed it, is also taking it a step further in some cases where that person or persons who have this assumed familiarity with you also feels though you are directly speaking to them in everything you do. So the barrier of it being a general, let’s say, informational post, they feel as though you are directly speaking to them, even though the content creator in question might not even know who they are. Does that make sense? It almost kind of takes away the community aspect of it. And in some cases I’ve noticed people feel like it’s a one on one conversation and I feel like that creates a lot of things being missed in translation. Lost in translation. Yeah. Not everything on the Internet is for you. Sometimes there’s just statements and not everything is going to apply to your life. And I feel like maybe they forget that because they’re the ones consuming it. So they just assume that because they’re consuming it or it’s on their for you page, that it is for them and it’s not. Yeah, I think a big piece, too is it’s tough as a creator because you do want to make a relationship with your audience, right? You do want to connect with your audience and want them to feel familiar with you and enjoy your content as if it were somebody that they cared about. So it is kind of this Catch 22 of I do care about my audience and I do want them to feel like they’re chatting with a friend when I post videos, like an overtea video, for example, or having a conversation. But it’s taking it to the point of maybe having those unsolicited opinions on something that I created is doing as if you were a friend giving advice to another friend when you’re really just an internet stranger having an opinion on something that they didn’t ask your opinion on type of thing, or approaching them in real life and kind of trying to forcibly fit yourself as a friend of them already, as if you are not a stranger. Yeah. And I think the first part of what you said there is really important that we as creators really do want to have that bond with our audience. I know I’m really sad I’ve had to turn my DMs off because of the scammers, because I do like engaging with people. I like talking with my followers. Maybe not on a super friendship level, you know what I mean, but like, a lot of them have really good things to say and I want to hear that. I think it’s interesting. It brings up cool conversations, cool perspectives and that’s kind of, in my opinion, how we grow as individuals is by hearing other people’s perspectives. So it is that fine line, isn’t it, of, I don’t know, engaging with your audience simultaneously, not sharing so much that people feel like they own you, I guess you could say. It’s difficult, isn’t it? Yes, it’s a very, very fine line to walk. I guess then my next question would be as creators yourselves, how do you guys feel or what do you guys feel the creator owes the audience? Kind of in that general sense? What do we owe people? Because I do feel like we owe people something, right? We are creating for a purpose, for a reason. So what does that look like in your perspective? I think we owe people good content for the most part. I mean, I definitely have places where I shit post, but I’m open about that. My tik tok is shit posting and nothing else and it’s in the bio. But I think we owe people good content, something that they can take away, something whether that is comedy or just I love watching those study with me for like 4 hours, but it’s the thing is that I can take something away from despite the simple concept of it. Whereas if you’re just posting things to post things, just to kind of fill up your weekly video or something like that, I don’t know, I don’t really like that. And depending on what your content is, I think you owe your audience that of what you promise them. I talk about witchcraft or travel or just kind of like enjoying life and I try to implement that in every video, if not everything that I post. And I think that I owe that to my audience because if I just took a left turn and started talking about cars, they’d probably be like wait, what? I just think that you owe that to the audience of just having some sort of communication of what you’re doing and what you want to give them. What about you, Nike? I personally feel that we owe honesty, but I want to explain what I mean by that. I don’t mean honesty in like we should be giving everybody every part of our practice and be fully open about. I mean honesty in the sense of if we don’t know something, we should be open about that. We should be open about where we have failed in the past or where we’ve gotten information wrong and we should be honest about what we do know and what we’re passionate about. I don’t know so much about ceremonial stuff and I’m very open about that. And I’m not going to pretend like I know everything just because Georgina has given me some Cliff Notes on Salima. I’m certainly no thalamite and I’m not going to try to act like I am. And if there’s other stuff I don’t know very much about, or even if it’s in a subject that I know a fair amount about, like astrology, if there’s a subjection I don’t really know anything about. Like, I don’t know much about the Nakshatres and Vedic astrology. I’m not going to pretend like I do that’s. Okay, any astrology people might know what that term means. I don’t actually know what it means. I just know it’s an astrological term. So I’m open about not knowing that. And I think it gives our audience a disservice to try to act like we are more knowledgeable than we truly are because we end up failing them and we usually end up giving them wrong information if we’re just pretending to know about it. And that sets people on the wrong path and can set them up for failure later. And if you’re trying to help people, which I think is what we all try to do, then we need to help them by being honest about where we are strongest and when we’re not. Yes, I think that that’s actually something a lot of creators and just people in general kind of pitfall into is being too prideful to admit that they don’t know something. It’s okay to not know everything. We’re not walking computers. For me personally, I completely agree with both of you. But I also think as creators, we owe people kindness. And by kindness, I don’t mean being a doormat to our followers and allowing them to be unkind to us or similar, but I mean being like kind with people in that maybe they genuinely need help with something. And we, the creator, have seen that. Right now, obviously there’s going to be a bajillion instances where somebody comments and you don’t see it, let’s say, and then, so therefore you don’t respond to them and it’s not ignoring. You just didn’t see it. I’ll be the first one to admit that usually I post something on the Internet and I don’t look at the comments. Again, they give me anxiety most times. But if you do see it, I think non answer is unkind. I also think that non answer is an answer and not a very good one, if that make sense. Take witch talk, for example. I think it’s a really good place to use as an example not to shit on witch talk, but when people will ask questions in the comments and then that creator will take time to say, do your research. I’m not Google. So you’ve taken the time out of your day to not only see the comment, but respond to the comment and do so meanly, like, what was the purpose there? And so I feel as though we owe them kindness. And kindness does look like not going out of your way to be an asshole to somebody. And in saying that other people ripping you to shreds in a creator’s comments is not the creator being unkind to you. Like, sometimes our actions have consequences and people will call you out on that, but that is not the creator’s job or responsibility. To make sure people don’t bully you when you said something horrible or rude or similar in their comment section. I definitely had to fight the urge because as creators, you get kind of annoyed because the person asking you a question is only asking you that one time. But you as the creator have probably been asked 15 million. So I’ve tried to combat this in myself by one reminding myself that they’re probably very new. They’re often younger on the younger side, innocent. They’re looking for guidance. They’re just trying to get into it. And if it is something that truly annoys me, I’ll leave it. If I want to come back, I’ll leave it for a while and come back to it later. Or I try to tell myself if they’re getting something wrong or if it’s misinformation or whatever, try to give the proper information, but in a positive way. I wouldn’t even know if they got an herb wrong, whatever. I might come in and be like, Hey, that information is wrong. Just so you know, maybe the information is even harmful. And then I would follow it up by but one of my favorite sources for this is or one of my favorite ways to learn about this stuff is I try to give a fun I enjoy doing this way. This is where you can learn more just as something to turn the conversation. Because no one likes to be told you are wrong and if you ended it, you are wrong. It can be very harsh. And so if I choose to engage, I try to make sure to also add in something else that is beyond just you’re wrong and therefore dumb and stupid. Because that’s not what I want people to think. Everybody’s a novice at some point and deserves some amount of guidance. And if you don’t feel like you want to give it that day, then it’s better to just say nothing. And often people in the comments will fill in for you. Yes, patience. Patience. I also feel like going off what you’re saying. Nike a lot of people kind of fall into this pattern. I know that people have been saying stuff online. It’s becoming Internet discourse that people maybe have historically fibbed about how long they’ve been practicing or similar because they don’t want to appear to be a novice. And I think a lot of that stems from exactly the example you just gave of people giving really harsh and unkind answers to people that are just trying to ask genuine questions as though we didn’t all start somewhere. And I think that if people in general chose to educate instead of belittle, we probably have a lot less people pretending as though they have been practicing for a lot longer than they have because that then becomes misinformation and misrepresentation. We probably wouldn’t have situations where people say shit like the moon wobbles on a full moon if they didn’t feel the need to lie about their practice in the first place. Not to say that that particular example is that that person was lying, but you get my point. Oh my goodness. Okay, so going off all of this then, in an ideal world perfect, absolutely perfect world, what would your ideal student teacher parasocial relationship look like given that you are a content creator? That’s a big world. That’s a big one. I don’t even know what that would look like. I guess Nike, if you have something that you want to say it. I do. Okay, then please go. My perfect world parasocial interaction type thing is actually something that I get to engage in currently, which is engaging in a community space. So it’s not a one on one, talking to you stranger on the internet. Discord Servers is a big one, but it can be like common sections in just larger spaces anywhere outside of DMs, basically, where if the person is asking a question, maybe I don’t know the answer, maybe I’m too tired to deal with it, whatever. Like, maybe I don’t have the energy to engage in something right now, especially my Discord Servers that I’m in. Somebody asks the question and the whole community can jump in. And it’s from people of all sorts of different practices and all these different opinions, and they can all share sources, and maybe they have information that I don’t have and I can jump in with my opinion too, but it doesn’t become like I am the only source that you need. I’m the only one that you’re talking to. I can see other people in there that are engaging with you and sharing their experiences, and the community grows together rather than just having this singular one on one, you and me interaction. Because I don’t take students, I have no reason to. I don’t really want to at this time in my life. So I would much rather be able to engage in a group setting. Almost like the feeling of a book club sort of thing. There’s no leaner. It’s just everyone talks. And that’s my favorite way to really have that engagement together. Yeah, I really love that. Oh my God, yes. That has been something that I’ve always tried to instill in my audience of like, I don’t want a pedestal, please don’t do that to me. And I don’t want it to be a one on one thing. Kind of how Nike was saying. I would so much rather be in a community where it’s a big circle rather than one person making a Ted Talk and everybody else listening. And I just think that it’s so much more valuable that way because I’m constantly learning from my audience as well. They’re going to give me and have and still do give me ideas or tips or things of that realm that have helped me so much. Whereas I’m like, oh, I’m struggling with this thing, or I’m not sure what to do with X, Y, and Z, and somebody will come along and be like, I’ve only been practicing for a month or two or even that or a few years, and here is what I do with that problem or that specific situation, and it’s something that I never would have thought of, and it’s awesome. So I really love the idea that it’s kind of like a community thing and that everybody’s learning from everybody. There is no teacher student, really. Further, I like that a lot of people will fill in with their strengths where other people are not as strong in those suits. That’s really cool as well. And then, respectful, I mean, in a perfect world, I meet a lot of my audience. They come to my pole dance classes. I actually met one today. They were wonderful. But a lot of them are very kind. They are very respectful, and they’re not like overbearing or creepy or anything like that. They’re all, for the most part, very sweet. And in a perfect world, all of them would be like that. But, you know, there’s always that 1%. Yeah. I mean, I think that the biggest thing that as a community that we can take from is that creators, regardless of who they are, they’re still just people. They’re not gods. Your favorite author, your favorite YouTuber, your favorite whoever, right, is still a person at the end of the day. And persons always have room to grow. They always have room to be more educated, to be better, et cetera. And we as a community, I think, need to remember that and remember that no one creator is perfect, and we need to give them the space to admit that and to grow from it. It’s okay to not be perfect, and it’s okay to have growing room. For fuck’s sake. We all know that I can’t spell or read, but I wrote a whole book. But I think that having that really honest conversation of do not come to my Twitter and expect there to be any grammar is a part of the reality, right? And this is part of the thing that I think that as a community, we all can grow from and learn from. And I think that even if you do take on a mentorship, like, let’s say you joined Maria and My Patreon, right, where we have these one on one sessions, we’re still not gods. We’re still not going to know everything all the time. We’re going to give you our best with our strength and simultaneously, hopefully, point you in the right direction if we don’t know something. And that’s okay. I think that it’s okay to not know everything and that we as a whole community need to remember that. And also remember that even if your favorite creator engages with you, that doesn’t necessarily mean every post is written specifically for you. And that’s when you’re not talking to me directly. And every post you make. They’re not all for me, Robin. Well, they are for you specifically. For you specifically. They are, actually. Yeah,
Participant #1:
but I just think that’s an important lesson. I know, at least in my experience, I will post things, and sometimes it does happen rarely, but on a rare occasion, people will comment, thinking that I’m talking to them specifically, and I’m like, who are you? Like, no offense, but I did not write this about you, friendo. This is something that, being a creator, you learn very quickly is nothing is personal. Even if somebody is trying to make it personal about you. Nothing is personal. Yeah, it’s just the Internet at the end of the day, isn’t it? It really is. It’s just the Internet just unplug and go touch some grass. No, I’m not actually your own choice. You don’t have to listen to me. I support you. Queen, I usually refuse to touch grass, and you asking me to do so is very aggressive. And you need to stop screaming at me. Thank you.
Participant #1:
So, Olivia, what’s stirring your cold run this week? You mourned me when I was home at school. I feel weird because I’m asexual, so it’s like, what do I do? What can I say? Yeah, I’ve never felt this before.
Participant #1:
Wow. Okay. Off guard. Anyway, I will tell you what is stirring my cold run this week. One is a CPT that I’ve been working on that so far is working out to be pretty good. Well, it tastes fine, but it’s, like, working well of really knocking you out. And that is Valyrian root. I have lavender in there, shocking, but I’ll drink it. Chamomile and some catnip are all mixed in there super good, and it’ll knock you the hell out, at least as far as I have gone. What’s the word that I’m looking for that I have found? And as well as all the friends that I’ve distributed this to, they’re all saying that they’re sleeping better and a little more deep. So I’m hoping that that’s going to be a good thing to stick with for now. But the other thing, especially around this time of year, I don’t know why I love it so much, is hazelnut chamomile bourbon. It is so good, especially like in hot toddy’s or something.
Participant #1:
It’s hazelnut. Like, you just get whole hazelnuts, and then you get a little bit of dried caramel meal, maybe like a teaspoon or two or a tablespoon or two, and then just like a whole thing of bourbon of your choice, and you just throw it all into one big jar or container and you let it sit overnight, and then you strain it. And I will tell you right now, it is so fucking good. It’s so good. I drink it straight. I would just pop, like, a little whiskey block in there, make it cold, chill it a little bit, and just drink it straight. It is so good. Add some honey or some simple syrup. Oh my god. Oh, my god, it’s so good. Can I tell you two things? The first thing, I have no idea what a hot toddy is. And every single time somebody says hot toddy, I’m like, yeah, me too. Same. It’s tea with whiskey, not whiskey with tea. I mean, whatever you want, but it’s tea with whiskey in it and like lemon. Okay, that sounds nice. The thing I was going to tell you is I have found with my CBT’s that have valerian root in it to kill that nasty fucking taste. Rose and mint. Rose neutralizes a lot of the flavor, and mint will mask the rest of it. They have no extra, like, sleepy time benefits, but they do help with that labor. I think the last one. So what happened was I made my friend a Sleepy time tea and I didn’t remember what I put in it. I just gave it to him and he was like, oh, it worked so well. And I was like, fuck, I didn’t write anything down. And I’m pretty sure Rose was in there. And I forgot to add I have passion flower in there as well. Yeah, like I said, it doesn’t taste awful. It’s just not like you don’t drink it for the taste. You drink it for sure. The sleeping benefits. Yeah, right. But this Hazelnut Cannonmill bourbon is from the book Witchcraft Cocktails. It’s an amazing book. So if you like to drink like I do, then it’s classy and it’s witchy and it’s delicious. So I would highly recommend that book if I got the book for you. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
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So, Nike, what’s not stirring your cauldron this week? Your sexy, sexy voices in such contrast. What am I about to say? What’s not for my cauldron is this fucking cold weather. This is the six months of the year where I am the least happy because my body can’t warm itself. I’m very exothermic. I think that’s the word. Only putting out heat. Sure. Well, thank you, scientist. You’re right. You’re illiterate. I can’t expect you to do
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that. I have really shitty circulation. And so my fingers and toes, when they’re cold, they can’t warm themselves back up. Like I need a heat source to put on them. I can’t just like put on socks, wear gloves. No, it’s too late, my guy. It’s too late for me. They’re already cold. And so it’s six months straight. And even in my own house, I am freezing cold. I can’t go anywhere. I can’t produce my own heat. And if I have a partner or a cuddle buddy at night because I put out all of my heat and none of it stays in my body, they’re sweating and don’t want to cuddle with me because I’m making them too hot while I’m freezing alone in this bed. Please just let me have some of your body heat. Please suffer for five minutes. I’m begging you. I need this. I’m a summer baby only.
Participant #1:
I’m going to get you one of those fitted bedsheets that has the blanket warmer in it. Please, for just ten cents a day, you too can your area literally right now. You can see it on streams that I do. Or if you have the video versions of the podcast, you can just see me. I have my fuzzy blanket around my shoulders. I’m wearing like three sweaters. I’m holding a cat, which is helping to warm my body. Like, I’m freezing. See, I’m the same way, but I thrive in the cold. I get so pissed off when I’m too hot and I’m sweaty and I just fucking hate that shit. I would rather roll around in the snow for the rest of my life. I’m neutral in this conversation because the summer heat makes me want to die. Snow, don’t even look at me. Okay, too cold. But a nice balmy 45 50. Love that. I want to be cold. Cool, right? But not cold. If I’m cold, that’s it, I’m done. I’m freezing. I just don’t want to be there. But if I’m hot, I want to take off all my clothes. I want to lay in a bath of ice and just pass away. Oh my God. I don’t mind being kind of warm, but I would so much rather be cold because it’s so much easier to warm up than it is to cool down. True. You can only take off so many layers and then also it’s apparently illegal to walk around but ass naked, so it’s like, what do you want me to do? But I can’t warm up, that’s the problem. Like you say, you can put on more clothes. It doesn’t matter how many clothes I’m wearing, I don’t warm up. If the heat is gone, it’s gone. I need to put my hands in a fire. Once the heat is released, you have to take it from some other source. Yes, you’re a heat leaf.
Participant #1:
Oh my God. I cleaned this energy. That’s so funny. When we get you one of those jackets that have like the little battery pack in them to warm you up. Electrical warmers. Oh my God. We got my dad one of those for his photography because he takes night time photos and he does them primarily in the wintertime, so it’s like five degrees outside. So we got him one of those little jackets that has like a heating system inside of it and he really likes it. So maybe that’s what you need. Nike, if you need it, please let me have it. I’ll send you some links.
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If you’ve just joined us every single week, we talk about creators, shops, photographers, books, art, et cetera, that we are loving. And these are things that we have organically found on our own and are choosing to share them because we think you guys might enjoy it. So that being said, because I feel like I don’t feel like I know every goddamn episode I have to say, stop sending us shit to promote on here and asking us for money for it. It’s crazy. Stop it. No. These are organic fines, and we would appreciate it if after two years, it finally stopped. I know it won’t. I know that they don’t listen to this, but I’m saying it anyway. So that being said, Nike, who are you loving? Right now I have two. So the first one is Julianne Doodles on YouTube. I think she has an Instagram as well, but I found her on YouTube. Her content is Bullet journaling, and her illustrations are really cute. I just think her personality is really fun. And when I found her, I was like, without looking, surely 100K, easily six digits past. She’s a think. She deserves more love. Her stuff is so fun and so whimsical. And the other one that I’m loving is and I don’t know how to pronounce the name correctly, I’m going to spell it and then maybe try to say it. It’s G-U-A-N-S-A-R-T-I think it’s Guan. I could be wrong. They do these really beautiful not photo realistic, but fairly realistic looking, like doodles and paintings of flowers. And there’s some embroidery stuff. And I actually think it’s so beautiful. It’s very much my aesthetic. I’ve fallen in love. That’s so cute. What about you, Olivia? I have three. One of them is the witchcraft cocktails that I mentioned already by Julia Haleena Hadis. I don’t know if I said that correctly, but it is Witchcraft Cocktails by Julia H. Wonderful books. Love her as a person. And then the other two are artists. One I will not even attempt to completely ruin how I might pronounce his name, but it is Y-O-S-I-E-L-L. Lorenzo. He makes these wonderful, incredible art pieces that are all very Victorian type of style, and they’re kind of like cartoony. I don’t know how to explain it. You should definitely just look them up. I have one of his wood carving prints. It’s of this, like, witchy woman who kind of has the same haircut as me. So I’m just deciding. It’s me drinking tea with a skeleton. And it says, I drink tea with the dead because the living gossip too much. And that’s just I don’t know. I love that. It’s very my aesthetic. And then the other artist, she is on Instagram at Et S-O-Y. She’s a Filipino artist that does a lot of gorgeous Filipino folklore type of art. And it’s just so gorgeous. It’s just cool. I just love it. So both of those are wonderful. Those are mine. I love that. Well, I only have one this week, and mine is by a Ticktocker, but they have an Instagram, too. But I found them on TikTok, so that’s what we’re talking about, called Milly’s pottery. And they do these like pinch pot tea cups, but each one has like, a little character at the bottom of the cup. I found them over right around Halloween, and they had a bunch of ones that had, like, little ghouls at the bottom of it, which is so freaking cute. And they have one specifically that I’m pretty regretful I didn’t get, which has a little axle bottle at the bottom. So freaking cute. I’m absolutely obsessed. Yeah, I think everybody should have a little friend at the bottom of their cup.
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